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		<title>By: lang</title>
		<link>http://www.marcozehe.de/2009/11/19/thunderbird-3-is-coming-out-soon-and-its-accessible/comment-page-1/#comment-122389</link>
		<dc:creator>lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 18:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know under the old one it was tricky to type an address not in your contacts, and Iâ€™d like to find out if thereâ€™s a way to add words to whatever the dictionary is that catches misspellings, I assume there is. Other than that, Iâ€™d say my itâ€™s great. All the things I can think of that arenâ€™t quite working right</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know under the old one it was tricky to type an address not in your contacts, and Iâ€™d like to find out if thereâ€™s a way to add words to whatever the dictionary is that catches misspellings, I assume there is. Other than that, Iâ€™d say my itâ€™s great. All the things I can think of that arenâ€™t quite working right</p>
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		<title>By: panubon</title>
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		<dc:creator>panubon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 08:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do thunderbird 3.1 and firefox for my work. It great, thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do thunderbird 3.1 and firefox for my work. It great, thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re the language announcements, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marcozehe.de/2007/12/20/funny-language-announcements-when-reading-messages-in-thunderbird/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this blog post&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might want to try Thunderbird 3.1. The table is exposed in much more detail in TB 3.1, so you will hear if a message is unread, has attachments etc.
Also, under the File menu, in an open message, there is an attachments sub menu that has options to open or save individual attachments, or save all attachments in one strike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to try Thunderbird 3.1. The table is exposed in much more detail in TB 3.1, so you will hear if a message is unread, has attachments etc.<br />
Also, under the File menu, in an open message, there is an attachments sub menu that has options to open or save individual attachments, or save all attachments in one strike.</p>
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		<title>By: Video game design</title>
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		<dc:creator>Video game design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TB3 is pretty groovy, I gotta say. I think the only thing I havenâ€™t really figured out yet is attachments, not only does it not show up that a message has one, there doesnâ€™t seem to be any option in the menus or such for dealing with them. Also, this might be related to the other issues, so far as I can tell I donâ€™t see statuses either, e.g. read, unread, etc. This under whatever the latest version of jaws 11 happens to be. Hopefully if that needs a new version of gecko thatâ€™ll be happening soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TB3 is pretty groovy, I gotta say. I think the only thing I havenâ€™t really figured out yet is attachments, not only does it not show up that a message has one, there doesnâ€™t seem to be any option in the menus or such for dealing with them. Also, this might be related to the other issues, so far as I can tell I donâ€™t see statuses either, e.g. read, unread, etc. This under whatever the latest version of jaws 11 happens to be. Hopefully if that needs a new version of gecko thatâ€™ll be happening soon.</p>
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		<title>By: BeerKingMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeerKingMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 11:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just downloaded Thunderbird 3.0.4 a few days ago. Iâ€™ve been using Tâ€™bird 2 with Jaws 10, and the only problem I had was that Jaws keeps saying â€œx-Westernâ€ and the like when reading messages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just downloaded Thunderbird 3.0.4 a few days ago. Iâ€™ve been using Tâ€™bird 2 with Jaws 10, and the only problem I had was that Jaws keeps saying â€œx-Westernâ€ and the like when reading messages.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just downloaded Thunderbird 3.0.4 a few days ago. I&#039;ve been using T&#039;bird 2 with Jaws 10, and the only problem I had was that Jaws keeps saying &quot;x-Western&quot; and the like when reading messages. Now, I can&#039;t access attachments. The Attachments submenu which used to be under the file menu is gone. What&#039;s up with that? I have messages that contain attachments which I was able to access with the old version, so I know they&#039;re there, just can&#039;t get to them. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just downloaded Thunderbird 3.0.4 a few days ago. I&#8217;ve been using T&#8217;bird 2 with Jaws 10, and the only problem I had was that Jaws keeps saying &#8220;x-Western&#8221; and the like when reading messages. Now, I can&#8217;t access attachments. The Attachments submenu which used to be under the file menu is gone. What&#8217;s up with that? I have messages that contain attachments which I was able to access with the old version, so I know they&#8217;re there, just can&#8217;t get to them. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: The Blind Buzz on Accessibility &#171; The Blind Buzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Blind Buzz on Accessibility &#171; The Blind Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Thunderbird 3 is coming out soon, and itâ€™s accessible! &#8211; Marco&#8217;s accessibility blog [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gianluca,

regarding issue 1, this is definitely a JAWS issue and should be reported to Freedom Scientific. I&#039;ve seen it on occasion, but never enough to reproduce it.

Issue 2 is a limitation as I mention in my &quot;known issues&quot; section, having the same root cause. This will be possible to implement by ATs once a Thunderbird version comes out supporting the message list as a true table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gianluca,</p>
<p>regarding issue 1, this is definitely a JAWS issue and should be reported to Freedom Scientific. I&#8217;ve seen it on occasion, but never enough to reproduce it.</p>
<p>Issue 2 is a limitation as I mention in my &#8220;known issues&#8221; section, having the same root cause. This will be possible to implement by ATs once a Thunderbird version comes out supporting the message list as a true table.</p>
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		<title>By: Gianluca Nucci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gianluca Nucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 14:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two issues:
1 - when pressing the delete key from the mesage list Jaws would repeat &quot;read&quot; and the same subject, I have to refresh the screen every time.
2 - when reading the message list with the pc  cursor it seems it reads everything, no matter how the columns are set.
Can tgese be issues expected to be solved?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two issues:<br />
1 &#8211; when pressing the delete key from the mesage list Jaws would repeat &#8220;read&#8221; and the same subject, I have to refresh the screen every time.<br />
2 &#8211; when reading the message list with the pc  cursor it seems it reads everything, no matter how the columns are set.<br />
Can tgese be issues expected to be solved?</p>
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		<title>By: John Schucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Schucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TB3 is pretty groovy, I gotta say.  I think the only thing I haven&#039;t really figured out yet is attachments, not only does it not show up that a message has one, there doesn&#039;t seem to be any option in the menus or such for dealing with them.  Also, this might be related to the other issues, so far as I can tell I don&#039;t see statuses either, e.g. read, unread, etc.  This under whatever the latest version of jaws 11 happens to be.  Hopefully if that needs a new version of gecko that&#039;ll be happening soon.  I haven&#039;t tried sending new mail with it yet, I know under the old one it was tricky to type an address not in your contacts, and I&#039;d like to find out if there&#039;s a way to add words to whatever the dictionary is that catches misspellings, I assume there is.  Other than that, I&#039;d say my it&#039;s great.  All the things I can think of that aren&#039;t quite working right or that I&#039;ve asked about like spelling are prety minor issues in the scheme of things.  The message reading is bunches better, replying works well, all that good stuff.  Good job Mozilla!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TB3 is pretty groovy, I gotta say.  I think the only thing I haven&#8217;t really figured out yet is attachments, not only does it not show up that a message has one, there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any option in the menus or such for dealing with them.  Also, this might be related to the other issues, so far as I can tell I don&#8217;t see statuses either, e.g. read, unread, etc.  This under whatever the latest version of jaws 11 happens to be.  Hopefully if that needs a new version of gecko that&#8217;ll be happening soon.  I haven&#8217;t tried sending new mail with it yet, I know under the old one it was tricky to type an address not in your contacts, and I&#8217;d like to find out if there&#8217;s a way to add words to whatever the dictionary is that catches misspellings, I assume there is.  Other than that, I&#8217;d say my it&#8217;s great.  All the things I can think of that aren&#8217;t quite working right or that I&#8217;ve asked about like spelling are prety minor issues in the scheme of things.  The message reading is bunches better, replying works well, all that good stuff.  Good job Mozilla!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MarcoZehe (Marco Zehe)</title>
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		<title>By: KazÃ©</title>
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		<dc:creator>KazÃ©</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Marco,

Iâ€™m the lead dev of the KompoZer project: http://kompozer.net/
Iâ€™m looking for someone who could evaluate the accessibility of KompoZer. Weâ€™re in beta stage at the moment, and it would still be time to correct some aspects of this application to improve its accessibility.
It would help me a lot if you could write a blogpost (or mail me) about that!

Thanks in advance. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Marco,</p>
<p>Iâ€™m the lead dev of the KompoZer project: <a href="http://kompozer.net/" rel="nofollow">http://kompozer.net/</a><br />
Iâ€™m looking for someone who could evaluate the accessibility of KompoZer. Weâ€™re in beta stage at the moment, and it would still be time to correct some aspects of this application to improve its accessibility.<br />
It would help me a lot if you could write a blogpost (or mail me) about that!</p>
<p>Thanks in advance. <img src='http://www.marcozehe.de/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Adrina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use to work with Firefox on windows xp where i never tried with Thunderbird but my new collage computer lab is equipped with linux and Thunderbird actually working on linux ubuntu is not that bad experience but even not that easy for windows addicted person well for Thunderbird i found this 3.0 new version simple and easy extensions similar to Firefox where interface is much improved there is five reason to try Thunderbird check here for details http://www.techarena.in/guide/19023-five-reasons-move-thunderbird-3.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use to work with Firefox on windows xp where i never tried with Thunderbird but my new collage computer lab is equipped with linux and Thunderbird actually working on linux ubuntu is not that bad experience but even not that easy for windows addicted person well for Thunderbird i found this 3.0 new version simple and easy extensions similar to Firefox where interface is much improved there is five reason to try Thunderbird check here for details <a href="http://www.techarena.in/guide/19023-five-reasons-move-thunderbird-3.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.techarena.in/guide/19023-five-reasons-move-thunderbird-3.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.marcozehe.de/2009/11/19/thunderbird-3-is-coming-out-soon-and-its-accessible/comment-page-1/#comment-26583</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter,

unfortunately, this will also only be possible once we have the proper tables support with a new Gecko version. So, all Thunderbird 3.0.x versions based on Gecko 1.9.1 will not have a possibility to fix this problem. But once Thunderbird starts using a newer version, this will work, similar to the above mentioned known problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter,</p>
<p>unfortunately, this will also only be possible once we have the proper tables support with a new Gecko version. So, all Thunderbird 3.0.x versions based on Gecko 1.9.1 will not have a possibility to fix this problem. But once Thunderbird starts using a newer version, this will work, similar to the above mentioned known problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.marcozehe.de/2009/11/19/thunderbird-3-is-coming-out-soon-and-its-accessible/comment-page-1/#comment-26575</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi marco,
Thanks for good work. There is still one problem with invisibility (for screen readers) of an attachment icon in mails list. I&#039;m using a filter for labelling mails with attachments to have information about this but... Is it possible to fix this in near future?
With best
Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi marco,<br />
Thanks for good work. There is still one problem with invisibility (for screen readers) of an attachment icon in mails list. I&#8217;m using a filter for labelling mails with attachments to have information about this but&#8230; Is it possible to fix this in near future?<br />
With best<br />
Peter</p>
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		<title>By: The Blind Buzz on Accessibility, Friday Nov 20th &#171; The Blind Buzz</title>
		<link>http://www.marcozehe.de/2009/11/19/thunderbird-3-is-coming-out-soon-and-its-accessible/comment-page-1/#comment-26149</link>
		<dc:creator>The Blind Buzz on Accessibility, Friday Nov 20th &#171; The Blind Buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Thunderbird 3 is coming out soon, and itâ€™s accessible! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Thunderbird 3 is coming out soon, and itâ€™s accessible! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Marco</title>
		<link>http://www.marcozehe.de/2009/11/19/thunderbird-3-is-coming-out-soon-and-its-accessible/comment-page-1/#comment-26125</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aaron, nope, Thunderbird 3, like Firefox, doesn&#039;t work with VoiceOver on the mac yet, sorry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aaron, nope, Thunderbird 3, like Firefox, doesn&#8217;t work with VoiceOver on the mac yet, sorry!</p>
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