Comments on: Article on how to use NVDA and Firefox to test web sites for accessibility

By: Marco

Marco — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:32:18 +0000

The article works the same in Firefox 3.6 with NVDA. What Google Chrome is concerned, it is not accessible yet. It doesn’t expose information to screen readers properly currently, so it cannot be used with NVDA to test your web pages. The one other browser on Windows that currently works with screen readers such as NVDA is Microsoft Internet Explorer.

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:59:20 +0000

What about testing for newer browser versions, along with googles new browser?

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SteveALee (SteveALee) — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:36:56 +0000

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By: Marco

Marco — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 18:36:49 +0000

Thanks Jamie!

I’ve updated the article tro better describe the easier-to-remember keystrokes.

By: James Teh

James Teh — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:59:25 +0000

Sorry about the web site problems. We’re having some occasional trouble with our web server which is driving me rather insane. It should be working now.

Marco: Thanks for the great article. Just a couple of comments with regard to focus/browse modes:
* You describe the possibility to enter focus mode, but (unless I missed something) you don’t provide instructions on how to activate it (by pressing enter while the cursor is in the field).
* NVDA+space can certainly be used to return to browse mode. However, a simpler keystroke to remember which has been added in recent versions is escape.
* Note also that if NVDA+space is used to *enter* browse mode, browse mode is “locked” and nothing will exit it except another NVDA+space. This is meant to be used to work around ARIA applications which should really set role=”application” but do not. This is obviously probably not something you want to mention in your article – I just mention it here because it highlights the subtle difference between NVDA+space and other forms of focus/browse mode switching.

Thanks again.

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migrosch (Michael Grosch) — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:25:29 +0000

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By: Deborah

Deborah — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:30:15 +0000

Thanks Marco for the quick summary of NVDA vs. JAWS. I have Fire Vox on my computer, so I can test pages in two different applications.

By: Marco

Marco — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:17:50 +0000

Hi Deborah,

there are a few differences, for example indications of entering or exiting a list are written as plain text in JAWS, but are only verbal indications in NVDA. Also, by default, NVDA tries to give a feel for the actual screen layout, which JAWS does not do by default. In JAWS, one has to turn on an option to get that.

Those are the key differences I can think of off the top of my head.

By: Deborah

Deborah — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 15:13:34 +0000

We have a copy of JAWS installed on one of the machines at the college I work at. It’s used by one of our designers, but I would like to use NVDA on my computer so I can have first hand experience using a screen reader too.

Marco, do you see any key differences in how NVDA reads a page compared to JAWS?

By: Marco

Marco — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:49:30 +0000

Hi Deborah,

yes, it’s timing out for me as well. Hope this resolves itself soon!

By: Deborah

Deborah — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:42:25 +0000

Marco,

Thanks for the step-by-step guidelines on setting up and using NVDA. I have NVDA installed on my computer at home.

Unfortunately, it seems the NVDA website is down this morning (April 14, 2009 EST). I’ve tried several times to access the site, but the URL keeps timing out.

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webatou (Monique Brunel) — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 10:06:41 +0000

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